☆ ★ anata no sonzai wa ☆ ★
JUDAI
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YGO GX Episode 180
Thanks to [info]little_ribbon for the heads-up!

WHAT A WAY TO END (... LITERALLY, GUYS, WHAT THE HELL)
BUT STILL ♥

YOU CAN STILL SAY those three words that will make me walk on air:

BOKU

NO

TURN!



BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY THAT I KNOW IT'S ALL YOU IN THERE! ♥


omg, Judai = SUCH A FANBOY (part 1). IT MAKES ME HAPPY TO SEE SOMEONE REACTING EXACTLY THE WAY I WOULD. ♥ "BLACK MAGICIAN! ☆_☆ BLACK MAGICIAN GIRL! ♥__♥" And I love how much pure fun Yuugi is having dueling with Judai. It's all about the love of the game. I love how Judai calls Yuugi Yuugi-san. ♥

I'M SO DAMN HAPPY TO SEE MAHAADO AGAIN OKAY

At 2:16 here, Yuugi and Judai do the cutest laughing-together scene ever in the history of all time (part 2). FINE I know there are probably other series in which a similar scene is more meaningful, but will I love either of the characters involved as much as I love Yuugi? Probably not.

Makes me wonder: if Yubel had been a boy all the way through and through, possession and all - I probably would have COMPLETELY SHIPPED the pairing. As it is, Yubel's character design reminds me of a freaky version of female!Yami no Malik, so.

And of course, the moment everybody (but me) has been waiting for (part 3): Yami makes his reappearance! And CUE FLASHY POSSESSION SEQUENCE, EXCEPT, ON BOTH SIDES.

HAHAHAHA SPIRIT MIRROR, WE MEET AGAIN ~ I remember it so well because it featured so very prominently in the EPIC Jounouchi-Malik-Yuugi DUEL OF DOOM.

... SUMMONING OSIRIS NEVER GETS OLD. EVER.
Although the ending was a massive "EH?!", but there was a cat in Judai's bag, so that makes everything okay. EEEE and an awesome scrawled card from all his friends.
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FINALLY Judai has JUSTIFIED HIS EXISTENCE
JUDAI
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[info]shadow_of_egypt wins a WHOLE WORLD OF AWESOME for telling me about YUUGI'S RETURN IN GX. I'm just SO HAPPY to see him again. I HOPE THEY DUEL AND YUUGI KICKS JUDAI'S ASS. ♥

This means EVEN MORE to me because I recently started reading the GX manga (Volume 1 was just released in English in my country) and I ADORED it. IT'S A SERIES ABOUT YGO FANS, WHAT IS THERE NOT TO LOVE?! I kid you not, there are RANDOM FLASHES in Judai's memory about the LEGENDARY DUELISTS (cue Kaiba, Yuugi and JOUNOUCHI's silhouettes - PLUS MAI, EVEN), and his wanting to be JUST LIKE THEM. A duel takes place over, of all things, a BATTLE CITY DVD. ♥ And in the series it is a GREAT THING OF AWE to be in possession of a DUELIST KINGDOM VIDEO. I LAUGHED THE WHOLE WAY through the manga, especially when the main character just seemed to NEVER get his ass kicked. And also, there is a rival duelist named Chazz, which makes me LAUGH SO HARD because it gives me Blades of Glory flashbacks.

FANDOM CROSSOVERS WITH YGO
There's nothing quite like wandering around your non-YGO fandoms and finding YGO REFERENCES there. Or vice-versa! Check out Reborn's version of Screw the Rules, I Have Green Hair!

Gurren Lagann, in particular, seems to have more YGO crossovers than I realised! WHICH FILLS MY GL FAN'S HEART WITH JOY. These GL-styled YGO icons? UNSPEAKABLE LOVE, especially since I obsessed so violently over the series the Gurren Lagann art is so distinctive that I know the exact shots these YGO parodies were modeled on. Jounouchi = KAMINA LOLOLOLROFLOHGOD. And Simon = Atem and Yuugi, of course. AND VIRAL = BAKURA AND MALIK CRACKS ME UP SO HARD. GUYS GUYS GUYS. I know batshit crazy calls to batshit crazy across the gulf of different fandoms of different eras, but YEAH. ♥ AWESOME.

Here's a YGO-Gurren Lagann video that also puts a smile on my face. ♥ It's Underground, one of the many great tracks on the GL OST, and this YGO remake is amazingly faithful to the original GL video.
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this is what we call THE APPEAL PROCESS
AND NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON
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When I rule the world
EVERY DISPUTE will be decided by CHILDREN'S CARD GAMES.

... Except sometimes it feels like they already are being decided that way

I left my office for one meeting this morning and came back to find a status update on one of the cases I'm on in my inbox that made me think almost instantly of this line from this fic:

"But Kaiba-kun says that the last duel wasn't a fair duel,
and I don't care how many times we kick his ass,
so we're duelling again."


So of course my partner and I were, you know, not in the best of moods, despite the fact that we both knew it was coming and I'd been prepared for it and still.

This is one of the days when you just want to tell the other side:
JUST LIE DOWN AND ACCEPT OUR VICTORY ALREADY

no, really, sometimes I'm laughing so hard at myself I can't hear myself think.
Jou & Yuugi - I'd die for you.
[info]playinghavoc
So in response to this post, [info]little_ribbon said she wanted to see more YGO stuff, but I knew she really meant SHOW ME YOUR PUZZLESHIPPING.

SO, MY PUZZLESHIPPING, LET ME SHOW YOU IT:

My Puzzleshipping doujin folder (plus edits), my Puzzleshipping art folder, my YGO canon screenshots folder and the Puzzleshipping screenshots folder.

... and I didn't even cap the OTHER folder full of Puzzleshipping art that I braved TERRIFYING DENS OF PUZZLESHIPPING for, for this.

twitch. )
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MY ONE AND ONLYYY
Jou & Yuugi - I'd die for you.
[info]playinghavoc
JOUNOUCHI SHOUTOUT GETS ITS OWN POST!


\O/


Thank you, sweetheart. ♥

what's in a name? strawberry jam by any other label would still taste as sweet.
EYES UP HERE
[info]playinghavoc
Left the office at 1.40am last night, and unsurprisingly, I feel absolutely awful today. I FEEL LIKE YAMI: KIND OF DEAD. Catching a breather now because I can. God, I am barely here. BUT:

THIS POST was GREAT BECAUSE SO MUCH GOOD STUFF HAPPENED IN IT. LIKE:

OH MY GOD THE MOST ADORABLE TSUNAFISH moment EVER. Getting into a discussion with Yami about NAMES. THIS is the sweetest 'What's In A Name' discussion EVER.

omg so great I will put it down:

Tsuna: You're still you with or without a name. It's kinda like if you took the label off a jar of jam.....just cuz it doesn't have a label that says strawberry doesn't mean it isn't strawberry anymore.
Yami: ...
Tsuna: I'm me and you're you and that's all that matters, right? We're here talking to each other...and the more we do that, I'll know who you are, even without a name. You're not a name, you're you.
Yami: Yes, but are you you if you don't remember?
Tsuna: I think so! I mean, just because you don't remember doesn't mean ya won't make the same choices. Maman told me that everyone has this thing called a soul. Even if your brain don't remember, your heart will, and your soul is still the same! The experiences you don't remember are just like fine tuning to your personality! You're rough without them, but you're still you, and you'll get back to that place after a little bit of time.
Yami: ...
Yami: ...that could be.

OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF BABES omg Tsuna LOVE.

That kinda is why Yami is awesome ON HIS OWN, really, because all he has to do is EXIST AND ALL THIS AWESOME STUFF JUST HAPPENS AROUND HIM. I think, conceptually, he's so fascinating that EVEN BABY!TSUNA COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION LIKE THAT WITH HIM.

YOU LOOKIN' AT ME?
Jou & Yuugi - I'd die for you.
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"YGO 5D" makes me think that the people who came up with the series name slipped when they intended to type, "8D". As in "8D! LET'S SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WE CAN GET TO SWALLOW THIS SERIES!"

More YGO 5D artwork shows up! In which the main character's resemblance to both Yami and Mokuba is even more striking! Gods, he really does look like Yami and Mokuba's love-child. He has Yami's eyes. And Yami's glare and POSEUR 'TUDE.

This pleases me more than you could ever imagine. ♥ For all the wrong reasons, obviously, which is why I enjoy it even more.

This Jake Atlas dude REALLY. LOOKS. LIKE A BLOND KAIBA.

She? Reminds me of Amelda.

They are Noa's previously unmentioned Kaiba siblings, obviously! Just like how, in YGO-R, Pegasus mysteriously acquired a previously-unmentioned adopted son for the purposes of this thing purportedly called "plot"!

... clearly if I concentrate on drawing tenuous links to the VISUAL SIMILARITIES of the new characters to the old characters I CAN JUST PRETEND IT'S THE OLD YGO, WITH EVERYBODY IN THE SERIES AND EVERYBODY WORKING ON THE SERIES ON TWICE THE CRACK DOSAGE. I don't think I'll be able to have much of an emotional connection to any of the characters, but hey, I thought that about Hikaru no Go's Akira, and I am HAPPY TO BE PROVED WRONG ON THIS POINT ALWAYS.

Also, people should listen (by which I mean read) to this and this, really.
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CAPCAPCAP
Malik - I REVENGE
[info]playinghavoc
Just because you're dying of work doesn't mean you can't have fun. It's not as easy to have fun, because you have so very little time and energy to have fun with, but still.

Have the most productive thing I did LJ-wise ... this week!

[info]tinted_glass was doing the Computer Voyeurism meme (her lovely choice of words, not mine - I wish I could do that), and I asked her to HIT ME WITH HER BEST SHOT, so she asked for my most guilty pleasure fandom folder.

So I was: *grin* How do I choose? *grin*

... by not choosing, clearly, and giving you JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING:

This is my Reborn: Gokudera-Tsuna CANON MOMENTS folder. Most of my friends into Katekyo Hitman Reborn are passionate Yamamoto/Gokudera fans (as is most of the fandom, urk). So naturally, I had to be Gokudera/Tsuna (because the things I love just fly in the face of fandom popularity). It's a very canon pairing, yet has what I like to think of as a lot of underground love. So I vengefully catalogue all the canon moments for my pairing obsessively. Think of it as my massive secret MY PAIRING IS TOTALLY MORE CANON THAN YOURS folder. ;)

My Gurren Lagann fanart folder is pretty extensive, but can't hold a candle to:

TALES OF THE ABYSS
One of my biggest and most epic fandom loves ever, I think. Abyss Everything folder, Abyss doujinshi folder, and Abyss fanart folder. ... God I was obsessed.

TOTAL SHAME FANDOM MOMENT: My lolcats folder. I AM SO ASHAMED TO ACTUALLY ONE, FIND LOLCATS HILARIOUSLY FUNNY, TWO, BE CRAZY ENOUGH TO KEEP A FOLDER OF MY FAVOURITES.

There is a place called [info]fandomsecrets that is essentially Postsecrets, for fandom: and this is my FandomSecrets folder. I love the place! I watch it obsessively and save every secret that refers to any fandom I'm in!

AND FOR THE I CAN'T BELIEVE I DID THIS FANDOM FOLDER, here is my folder of pictures... of LIN'S CAT. I think it is HORRIBLY, HORRIBLY CUTE. I WANT TO HUG IT AND CUDDLE IT AND PET IT. Unfortunately it is MILLIONS OF MILES AWAY. She renamed it Milo, but I much preferred its former name: Glorfindel.

If you're reading this, you can ask me for aaaany screencap of anything on my (HOME) computer ( I shall be nice ), too. ;)

I COULD CAPSLOCK FOR ALL OF EGYPT.
EYES UP HERE
[info]playinghavoc
for the love of all things Egyptian, if you loved this as much as I did:

♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡


GO HERE.


♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡
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EXCUSE ME WHILE I OVERREACT
EYES UP HERE
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THIS IS SO AWESOME. I know I'm about a million years - i.e. three days out on this one (that's an eternity on the Internet, okay), but BOOK 19 OF THE RE-RELEASE YGO MANGA (see the left-hand side column, the update is dated 15th February)?

I. AM. GOING. TO. OWN. THAT.

IT'S ONLY ONE OF THE MOST AWESOME ATEM ART EVER.

Just like, I bet, [info]ariesdraco will need to own Book 20. *grin* For the Thief King Bakura centrefold artwork.

YES YES YES AND MORE YES
Malik - I REVENGE
[info]playinghavoc
EVEN BEING KILLED BY WORK CANNOT KILL MY AMUSEMENT OVER THIS

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

♥ Oh, people on [info]playthedamncard. ♥

SCREAM MOAR AND CRY HARDER, your anguish only adds to my amusement.

NEW YGO SERIES - THAT BEARS ABSOLUTELY NO RESEMBLANCE TO THE ORIGINAL. Now we have DUELISTS ON MOTORCYCLES.

The new character designs saw someone observe, "Hello unholy xover of YGO/Akira/Gurren Lagann?"

ALSO ALSO ALSO AWESOME FROM here:

THE LEAD is voiced by Yuuya Miyashita. YUUYA MIYASHITA. OF RUN AND GUN AND THE AIR GEAR MUSICAL. One of the new cast is voiced by the same person who voices BASIL ON REBORN.

I LAUGH SO HARD THAT SOME THINK that the lead is Yami and Mokuba's love child because clearly I am easy for ANYTHING Yami/ANY OF THE KAIBAS. this observation also valid.

OH OH ALSO AWESOME YGO ABRIDGED FST on [info]fst - community-locked, unfortunately, which means that I really will have to put That Plan into motion.

I give 'em so much love for giving Yami Sexyback. I QUOTE:

"Super special awesome ultra special sexy transformation sequence gooo!"
Because one song could not do proper justice to the sexy named Yami, I'm sure Tea will attest to that. And when Yami brings sexy back, he’s bringing it back from nearly 5,000 years ago. Though I’ve heard from a few sources, you can’t bring sexy back without a receipt...
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY HONEY ~ ♥
Jou & Yuugi - I'd die for you.
[info]playinghavoc
To [info]little_ribbon:


HAVE A GREAT ONE! ♥
I know it isn't quite your birthday over there just yet, but it is over here, and I just wanted to make sure you could see it the minute it was your birthday over there. ;)

My birthday wishes for you )

My name is Malik, and YOU are not my king.
My Name is Malik And You are Not My King
[info]playinghavoc
The only thing thar is better than an opportunity to go radiate love at people is an opportunity to find new people to stalk. AND SOMETIMES THEY COME AT THE SAME TIME:

☆ THE ROLEPLAYERS LOVE MEME ☆

Already I've found that [info]polychromatic has a Malik! With nice icons!

There is an AU!Yami with fun icons! Freaked!out!Pharaoh is so funny, and HEEEEEY, hello ♥ there ♥ psycho!crazy!Series 0!Yami! Also, my weak to usernames? Player account: [info]ore_no_turn. INSTANT WIN.

... AHAHAHA the Yami player also plays GL!Nia at Island?! BRILLIANT.

and other favourites )

ETA stopping at Page 7 for now BECAUSE HELL THAT'S A LOT.

And I've discovered [info]shadowvitani's YGO icons @ [info]vintagecerulean. I really like this icon of hers.

And, Kaiba is glad you lost, or he would have cried like a little girl.

... CRI MOAR < / spending too much time in the wrong places >

I loved this YGO response to the "Everything I know about the fandom through fannish representations/reputations meme". "DEEP BOOMING VOICES for tiny person" and "everyone is gay for kaiba" made me laugh hardest. THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO SEE. ♥
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THIEF OF YOUR HEART
Bakura is Kind of COMPLETELY Batshit Cra
[info]playinghavoc
Someone was looking for Yuugi/Yami no Bakura fic, so I was happy to oblige with whatever I had. *grin* I just ship Yuugi/anyone-who-isn't-,um,I-know-who with a blinding passion, so anytime I have a chance to share that with anyone else, I'm happy! AND WILL ENTHUSIASTICALLY DO SO!

Sadly, there aren't many Kleptoshipping stories out there. I've branched out into (any version of Yuugi) / (any version of Bakura) as a result of that. Strangely, I think the best fic if you want that is the Atem/Thief King Bakura fic.

The Light and the Thief - it states it's primarily Yuugi/Bakura, but accepts all permutations.

but Casteshipping (Pharaoh Atem x Thief King Bakura) has its C2 community too: here.

Reminiscence may be one of the better fics out there, and certainly is a favourite of mine. Likewise for The Games We Play.

This fanfiction archive might be of help. There certainly is one Yuugi/Ryou Bakura fic there, at least.

As usual I have NO GIRLS in my icons, BUT:
EYES UP HERE
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This was so awesome, it deserved to be posted uncut:


Serenity Shizuka so pretty omg ♥_♥ They're ALL so pretty. ...
AND IF THAT IS MAI why does she look so giggly 0_0

This icon is keyworded, "Obligatory Y/Y Icon."
Obligatory Y/Y Icon.
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short vent about why I always seem to need an obligatory Y/Y icon. )

This was originally going to be stuffed into the earlier post, but I realised it was too loltastic and also deserved its own post. BUT THE YGO OP/ED SONGS ARE SO Y/Y I COULD CRY. Or laugh. Preferably both. At the same time. I am sure it is only the fangirl mind that makes it all seem so Y/Y and SO NOT FOR KIDS in my head, but I MEAN, LOOK:

Kawaita Sakebi

as if piecing the heart already filled with depression.
I want to invite you to see this world with me.
Inside my heart are answers which no one else have.
Find the crucial key.

The gradually coldening thoughts,
no matter how I am unable to deny them
But a change to fall in love isn't a bad idea

I want to invite you to see this world with me.
Inside dreams are answers which no one else have.
You can trust me
JUST TAKE MY HEART

[I didn't capslock that! The site did! XD]

Ashita Moshi Kimiga Kowaretemo
Even if Tomorrow Dies

"Call my name," that voice of someone calling
The deep sadness of the darkness
Your pale skin fills me with light

Even if you could shatter tomorrow
I won't run from this place
It cures the fatigue of my body
Your smile

"I can't forget that love"
That's what you had said when we first met
Your face hides your true intentions
Is there any redemption for me?

Even if you could shatter tomorrow
I guess that I'd still keep wandering
Loving you, I discovered for the first time,
That fear of losing you

Even if you could shatter tomorrow
Even if I should lose my sight
We'll start walking
In those times, when we were at peace

It's a ghost of you

I am totally not a Y/Y fan and I can't see these songs as being ANYTHING BUT Y/Y.
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why is it when I start talking YGO I can't stop talking?
Otogi and Bakura BFF
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Anime Lyrics (YGO) is for deciphering the aural hieroglyphics that are the YGO series songs. (... this makes me think of a similar analogy that I was once enlightened with in law school, that Treitel on Contracts = hieroglyphics, McKendrick's Contract Law = Rosetta Stone)

I am only halfway kidding, because pretty much nearly every anime OP/ED that's attempted to throw in English has always had me going, "EH?!" When I first started out watching anime, it used to throw me seriously off because I'd be, "Wait! I thought this song was in Japanese! Why are these strange snippets of English-that-doesn't-sound-anything-like-English here? Have I heard it wrong?"

This is the English translation and romanised lyrics for the opening song. The chorus makes me giggle, but the whole song is so obviously Y/Y. Same for the ED.

Pegasus's Astrology and Blood Type chart out! The Rest Here. I remember reading these when just the first three were up, and wondering whether I'd get to see the rest or if they'd ever be completed! ;) Still, I am horribly biased, so as long as they do Jou's, Yuugi's and Kaiba's, I'm happy.

This part about Yuugi's blood type amused me the most, though, as the guide says, of Yuugi:
AB is most compatible with AB, B, A and O (in other words, EVERYBODY).

AB characters: Ryou Bakura
B characters: Katsuya Jounouchi, Ryuuji Otogi, (hey, they missed out Malik!)
[... chokes at the description, which says, "Compatibility-wise, Bs are best paired with other Bs (Jounouchi, Ryouta Kajiki, Ryuuji Otogi) and ABs (Yuugi, Bakura)."
... Oi! I'm type B!]
A characters: Hiroto Honda, Seto Kaiba
O characters: Anzu Mazaki, Mai Kujaku, Mokuba Kaiba, Sugoroku Mutou.


► And for my parting shot, bearing in mind that I am fragile and what is disturbing to me may not be disturbing to you, have the most disturbing YGO icon I have ever seen. )
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Ten Things I (KIND OF SOMETIMES LIKE) About You (fine, it's only 8 ATM)
EYES UP HERE
[info]playinghavoc
As I was telling [info]little_ribbon:

WARNING FOR MORE PICTURES than a non-Yami fan should be able to summon without thinking
I like Yami when... )

A card, a card, my kingdom for a card!
Bakura is Kind of COMPLETELY Batshit Cra
[info]playinghavoc
Behind the LJ cut, images can be AS BIG AS THEY HAVE TO BE.

KAIBA'S IS THE DUEL THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS )


[info]little_ribbon showed me the YGO: Duelists of the Roses game, but it wasn't until NOW that I discovered what it was about:

DIRECT QUOTE FROM GAME OPENING

in fifteenth-century Britain... ) And in France, Yugi
(Henry Tudor) - the last Lancastrian heir - was being forced to
live a life of exile. The Lancastrian forces were rendered powerless
by ancient cards of sorcery wielded by 'Seto' and his 7 followers
who, known as the 'Rose Crusaders', served under the flag of Lord
Crawford, a powerful Yorkist nobleman. Lacking a duelist to champion
their cause, defeat was imminent for the Lancastrians. In England,
duel card games were still at the fledgling stage. Thus, the
Lancastrians had to look elsewhere for a duel master capable of
facing the Rosenkreuz in battle. With this in mind, Margaret Mai
Beaufort of Lancaster secretly requested a High Druid to summon a
duelist from another age.

*is rolling all over the floor laughing hysterically* Oh, and would Yuugi be played by Jonathan Rhys Meyers? (He seems to fit Kaiba better, for my money)

WANNA KNOW MORE? )
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Sometimes you go, "I wish I didn't see what you did there. "
Jou & Yuugi - I'd die for you.
[info]playinghavoc
The good thing about fandom is that there's always someone crazier than you.

The bad thing about fandom is that there's always someone WAY CRAZIER than you, and sometimes all you can do is avert your eyes and hope that the crazy dies down soon.

New Abridged Episode out (again? This and the previous one were released in such close proximity I'm starting to worry it'll be April before I see a new one!) - although technically this one isn't an Abridged Episode, since it's abridging a Series 0 movie I didn't even know existed until this episode. GO TAS, educating YGO fans everywhere! (admittedly, I am easily educated because there's still so much I don't know) The art is actually amazingly pretty, given how old it is, and the sepia tint to the colour is actually quite visually appealing. It really feels like a throwback to an earlier era, which is exactly what it is.

The YGO Wikipedia has yet to put up a transcript (I'm shocked), but this highlights some of the best moments.

I loved that it was SO FULL of Jou and Yuugi moments (must hunt the video down sometime). My favourite moments, naturally, were Kaiba videostalking Yuugi in the shower (and the subsequent methinks-he-protests-too-much heated denial before the duel - "You'll have to take a shower ... and I won't be watching you do it!"), and Jounouchi's weapon-of-surprise-you-know-what. Which he deployed no less than twice.

And of course, my favourite line was Yami's, "Joey, with you it's never a surprise." ... and he looked so delightfully aw-shucks affectionate when he said it. (Even if that WAS the inner Jou/Yuugi fan talking)

I could probably spend way too much time on TVTropes, but I've always been extremely fond of the Superpowered Evil Side gambit (a variant is "With Great Insanity Comes Great Power"). The YGO extract they had was:

Yugi's powerful alter ego in Yu-Gi-Oh, Yami Yugi, is not actually evil, but he is a lot less concerned for the well-being of his enemies. Yami Bakura and Yami Marik, on the other hand, are both gleefully, psychotically evil. (Regular Marik isn't exactly a nice guy either.)

Yami Yugi: Couldn't I just mind crush him?
Yugi: You can't fix all your problems by mind crushing people.
Yami Yugi: Oh come on. Just one little mind crush, it'll barely hurt him.
Yugi: No! Bad pharaoh! No mind crush!


I can't help thinking this description doesn't sound anything like Yami (maybe the early Season 0 version), because I would have adored him if he'd been like this.

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